Can Pre-training Indicators Reliably Predict Fine-tuning Outcomes of LLMs?

Hansi Zeng, Kai Hui, Honglei Zhuang, Zhen Qin, Zhenrui Yue +2 more
4/16/2025
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Abstract

While metrics available during pre-training, such as perplexity, correlate well with model performance at scaling-laws studies, their predictive capacities at a fixed model size remain unclear, hindering effective model selection and development. To address this gap, we formulate the task of selecting pre-training checkpoints to maximize downstream fine-tuning performance as a pairwise classification problem: predicting which of two LLMs, differing in their pre-training, will perform better after supervised fine-tuning (SFT). We construct a dataset using 50 1B parameter LLM variants with systematically varied pre-training configurations, e.g., objectives or data, and evaluate them on diverse downstream tasks after SFT. We first conduct a study and demonstrate that the conventional perplexity is a misleading indicator. As such, we introduce novel unsupervised and supervised proxy metrics derived from pre-training that successfully reduce the relative performance prediction error rate by over 50%. Despite the inherent complexity of this task, we demonstrate the practical utility of our proposed proxies in specific scenarios, paving the way for more efficient design of pre-training schemes optimized for various downstream tasks.

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@article{zeng2025pretraining,
  title  = {Can Pre-training Indicators Reliably Predict Fine-tuning Outcomes of LLMs?},
  author = {Hansi Zeng and Kai Hui and Honglei Zhuang and Zhen Qin and Zhenrui Yue and Hamed Zamani and Dana Alon},
  year   = {2025},
  eprint = {2504.12491},
  archivePrefix = {arXiv},
  url    = {http://arxiv.org/abs/2504.12491v2}
}

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