Beyond Ordinal Preferences: Why Alignment Needs Cardinal Human Feedback

Parker Whitfill, Stewy Slocum
8/11/2025
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Alignment techniques for LLMs rely on optimizing preference-based objectives -- where these preferences are typically elicited as ordinal, binary choices between responses. Recent work has focused on improving label quality or mitigating particular biases, but we identify a more fundamental limitation: these methods collect the wrong kind of data. We prove an impossibility result: no algorithm relying solely on ordinal comparisons can systematically recover the most preferred model. Intuitively, ordinal data lacks the information needed to resolve tradeoffs -- e.g., fixing a factual error on one prompt versus improving style on another. We show that selecting the optimal model requires recovering preferences over \emph{models} (rather than just responses), which can only be identified given cardinal feedback about response quality. To address this, we collect and publicly release a dataset of 25,000 cardinal judgments using willingness-to-pay elicitations, a well-established tool from experimental economics. Empirically, we find that incorporating cardinal feedback into preference fine-tuning allows models to prioritize high-impact improvements and outperform ordinal-only methods on downstream benchmarks, such as Arena-Hard.

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@article{whitfill2025beyond,
  title  = {Beyond Ordinal Preferences: Why Alignment Needs Cardinal Human Feedback},
  author = {Parker Whitfill and Stewy Slocum},
  year   = {2025},
  eprint = {2508.08486},
  archivePrefix = {arXiv},
  url    = {http://arxiv.org/abs/2508.08486v1}
}

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