Turn-PPO: Turn-Level Advantage Estimation with PPO for Improved Multi-Turn RL in Agentic LLMs

Junbo Li, Peng Zhou, Rui Meng, Meet P. Vadera, Lihong Li +1 more
12/18/2025
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Reinforcement learning (RL) has re-emerged as a natural approach for training interactive LLM agents in real-world environments. However, directly applying the widely used Group Relative Policy Optimization (GRPO) algorithm to multi-turn tasks exposes notable limitations, particularly in scenarios requiring long-horizon reasoning. To address these challenges, we investigate more stable and effective advantage estimation strategies, especially for multi-turn settings. We first explore Proximal Policy Optimization (PPO) as an alternative and find it to be more robust than GRPO. To further enhance PPO in multi-turn scenarios, we introduce turn-PPO, a variant that operates on a turn-level MDP formulation, as opposed to the commonly used token-level MDP. Our results on the WebShop and Sokoban datasets demonstrate the effectiveness of turn-PPO, both with and without long reasoning components.

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@article{li2025turnppo,
  title  = {Turn-PPO: Turn-Level Advantage Estimation with PPO for Improved Multi-Turn RL in Agentic LLMs},
  author = {Junbo Li and Peng Zhou and Rui Meng and Meet P. Vadera and Lihong Li and Yang Li},
  year   = {2025},
  eprint = {2512.17008},
  archivePrefix = {arXiv},
  url    = {http://arxiv.org/abs/2512.17008v1}
}

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